maia: and that is how i found the maybe sword
alison: …so it’s just a regular broken sword?
maia: undoubtedly one of the flinsiest swords ever made.
alison: can it kill a god?
maia: maybe.
maia: maybe not.
Remember HIMSELF? the Capital-D Devil whose permission they needed to raid Mammon’s vault? And how Word of Abbaddon is that the main thing keeping him in that cage is the knowledge that eventually they’ll be so desperate for his help they’ll let him out?
Patiently waiting for those ‘7 minutes’ gog mentioned to be up and seeing what the hell she meant by that. Based on the battle map a lot of the last few pages have been occurring simultaneously, so they might not be up just yet.
It would be hilarious if after those 7 minutes Gog shows up and starts aura farming for another 7 minutes, just because she knows they need her to help and that she can get away with it
Presumably she meant she would be helping for 7 minutes, not that she would show up for only the first 7 minutes of the battle. She has not arrived/been called in yet.
Ah, true. How many members of the assault are actually Goglings, living their Agog lives? Seven minutes is plenty of time for a fight scene to get stale.
Gog outnumbers all armies.
I hope we get at least two more named attacks (or just a few more action shots of my favorite square angel) before shits starts getting super duper real (Jags breaks out of solitary confinement.)
The author of 10 Earth Shattering Blows once pondered whether his comic could be considered part of this one. I said, well this one is a multiverse so it’s conceivable that the demons in his setting might be among the ones needing to be killed. Well, one of the features of his settings is the use of lizards as vehicles of all kinds so, yeah, maybe those were shipped in from there.
1) Who or what are the big giant things that are fighting? I saw the Berserkers Incubus brought in, but some of those big lads look like they’re fighting on the side of the Republic.
2) How are they outnumbered 10 to 1? I always got the impression that the Disciples of the Count were not a particularly large group in the grand scheme of things. They only have space for like 5 digits. And yes 100,000 people is a lot, but not compared to armies made up from 111,111 worlds. Conversely the Republic seemed MASSIVE, especially with the influx of new immigrants. The guilds and Motom’s underlings were numerous, yes, but they always seemed like they were basically at each others’ throats at the BEST of times. When did they get so united?
This is actually explained when they first showed up. Basically they bought Incubus’ lies through a combination of unknowing and willful ignorance and aligned themselves with Jagganoth’s army, which is, in fact, Jagganoth’s 7th slice of the multiversal pie. As opposed to the Republic, which was in fact a small and struggling power reinforced by the rebellious elements of the other demiurges’ empires.
Basically one side is a universe-wiping army sending expendable chaff and mercenaries ahead of itself while the other is a bunch of stragglers trying to hold on.
Even if ALL of Motom, Incubus, and Mammon’s armies allied with Jagganoth’s, are not the multiverse “slices” equal in size? Shouldn’t each demiurge have a similar number of followers at their command? So, assuming they were all equal, this force should be outnumbering them 4:1, at most.
But Solomon actively cultivated an empire. We are shown that his people have a fairly high standard of living, strict rules aside. Whereas Motom routinely leaves her worlds desiccated husks and Jagganoth, as you have said, made his into an army. Husks cannot support large populations (even before the aforementioned infighting between guilds and Motom’s minions) and armies suffer casualties. Both of these things should mean that Jagganoth and Motom have SMALLER populations in their worlds vs someone who prioritized infrastructure and his people (even if it was mostly for show).
As for the Republic, was it not described multiple times as being a thing that spanned many worlds, presumably the majority of Solomon’s “slice”? It kind of fell on hard times after he left, but I thought that was mostly because of all the refugees coming in and bogging down the bureaucracy, not because of a lack of citizens. Like I said, maybe I missed something somewhere, but it kinda just feels like all these baddies came outta nowhere so the big fight can be suitably climactic (which is not inherently a bad thing).
In short, while the enemy outnumbering them is understandable (4 demiurges vs 1 and some change), it being such a massive imbalance when Jag’s forces aren’t even fully deployed seems kind of out of left field.
the Republic, as it stands, is the small scraps of a ruined empire that White Chain managed to rally together over the last few years. Only with the capacity of a few planets and a small corner of Throne in total. Unfortunately Preem Nand was not wrong in saying they were simply a collection of small, broken things.
They have absolutely no chance of standing up against the full unfettered might of the Middle Army, but they are very respectable for fighting against the end of the world instead of laying down and weeping.
The empire of Solomon David fractured almost entirely when the capitol city was also almost entirely destroyed by a single battle. Similarly to Rome, all the regions and principalities suddenly found themselves without reliable protection or a unified force to fight with. That’s what happens when Empires fall.
White Chain and Nyave stated that the Republic is only a few worlds and the districts surrounding their embassy in Throne. It doesn’t represent Solomon’s empire at all, his territory on the whole collapsed into mass civil war and presumably successor kingdoms. The Republic is a miniscule fledgling state that has managed to pull together an army this large by requesting aid from various other dissident forces, many inspired by Allison.
I’m wondering too. I suspect the ones wearing halos are gods. Others may be enormous demons. I haven’t spotted any of those giant revivified battle angel carcasses yet. In this view of the battle those Titans are fighting on both sides.
A related question is, if there are gods fighting, where’ve they been hiding out ? However, this epic involves multiple dimensions, time manipulation, and clues that reality has been / will be / is being re-written. So if some things seem unexplained at the moment – I’m guessing we may look there.
Quite early on, we saw the corpses of gods animated by demons to serve as public transportation. I think these may be a similar idea, but more like tanks.
I think if they were gods, we’d get some kind of mention of it. That would be a pretty big revelation, considering what we know of the lore. Not something you just drop into the background of one of the panels. If anything, the other demiurges would probably be losing their shit. The author has shown themself to be a better writer than that.
They might just be big dudes, like Jagganoth or the berserkers are, or battle mechs as Parsnip is suggesting, but I was wondering if anything specific had been mentioned about them.
Not really a big revelation as far as I can tell. Allison used to live in a god corpse house, there’s no real reverence for the gods anymore. It’s been established that their corpses are commonly used as vehicles.
The gods all died long ago, there were 777,777 and each stood in a unique direction in Throne and told a story, said story becoming a world. This killed the god, thus meaning every god *should* be dead, all of them having made a world.
“Sir! We’re surrounded! All 360degrees in volume!”
The Flourine Admiral had already uncorked his second bottle, which he raised in fervor as he shouted in jubilation:
“Grand! That means we can fire whereever we want to!”
I still feel like Allison is barely using the power available to her. Like, she basically teleported herself and an entire ship really early on. Can’t she just, like, poof and be on Incubus’ ship tearing shit to pieces as soon as she wants?
OR…. Call in support from her home EARTH. Which we assume is our IRL Earth.
We have, after all, MILLIONS of soldiers, thousands of Tanks and other potent stuff.
She can clearly create a gate home, so in theory she could also open a huge gate to Earth and let Earths armies march forth! DEUS VULT!
It has been confirmed by Abbadon himself that Pree Allison’s Earth is not the one you hail from. A difference he called out was a feature called Australia is not on Pree Allison’s Earth.
As far as the strength of arms you propose as an available reinforcement, I don’t believe it would matter much in a battle between gods and emissaries. We’ve already seen military hardware built with magic and run on devils torn asunder without much effort. Inert steel and lead would just be chaff.
Anyway the entire war so far is naught but Incubus and his ilk playing at swords while the countdown to the true battle runs down in the background. Have faith, the real battle comes soon and it will be beyond the scope of tanks and armies and little men that play at swords.
I have some doubts about the ability of a random barista, no matter how magical, to convince the American (or any other terrestrial) military to rush into a mid-battle universal war they know nothing about. These things take time to explain and build up to, unfortunately.
I don’t think we’ve ever seen anything that runs on petroleum in this multiverse, either. The logistics of such an expedition would be… complicated, to say the least, and refitting F-16s and suchlike to run on demons would take time that they don’t have.
She has dumpstered a single ship (a jobber ship and not even Incubus’ vessel) and everyone was like WOW AMAZING while she did her goofy cigarette thing and not even two pages elapsed before it has been revealed that she did approximately fuck-all. So, considering she -knows- that she’s accomplished basically nothing so far, why the hell is she just aura farming while all these people who showed up, ostensibly “for her” are getting brutally slaughtered by bazookas and lizard cannons?
She’s dramatically lighting cigarettes on airborne embers while the Sixth Reich have had enough uncontested time to rappel down from their still untouched WarBastard Class Heavy Cruisers and set up machinegun nests and mortar emplacements and the Dinosaur Fusiliers have organized into firing lines. The Purple Fodder Army have been slaughtered by berserkers and are now being chainsawed to death by The OCD Number Fetish Army. The Uselesships which occupied like five straight pages of introduction are a shambles. Why is everyone (who could be doing literally anything else) -still- yapping about how amazing Allison is? Has she honestly done a whole lot that’s worth this open-mouthed gobsmacked sycophancy?
There’s been more than enough anticipation, and there’s been an absolutely interminable amount of “Single Amazing Event occurred! Cue four pages of various people breathlessly gawping about how cool and inspiring Allison is, even if it was White Chain or Maya actually doing stuff.” Its been cool and all and the scale is epic but sheesh enough is enough we get it already.
I followed this comic for long enough to know the solution to this very inauspicious situation will not be a bigger amount of violence than what Incubus’ forces are providing, but something else.
I don’t know what this something else is, but I have faith in Allison. And this is enough.
Damn. I hope she does something.
You already know she’s gonna pull out either some crazy aoe attack or some massive summon attack
I hope she uses the Crushing Sarcasm of the Fourth Conquest. It’s a corker.
Nukoku has not really done anything so far. I suppose we will soon see just what being an Ivory Devil really means.
Maybe they just… lose.
maia: and that is how i found the maybe sword
alison: …so it’s just a regular broken sword?
maia: undoubtedly one of the flinsiest swords ever made.
alison: can it kill a god?
maia: maybe.
maia: maybe not.
WHEEL SMASHING LORD 1-22
Remember HIMSELF? the Capital-D Devil whose permission they needed to raid Mammon’s vault? And how Word of Abbaddon is that the main thing keeping him in that cage is the knowledge that eventually they’ll be so desperate for his help they’ll let him out?
‘Cause I’m remembering that right now.
Patiently waiting for those ‘7 minutes’ gog mentioned to be up and seeing what the hell she meant by that. Based on the battle map a lot of the last few pages have been occurring simultaneously, so they might not be up just yet.
It would be hilarious if after those 7 minutes Gog shows up and starts aura farming for another 7 minutes, just because she knows they need her to help and that she can get away with it
Presumably she meant she would be helping for 7 minutes, not that she would show up for only the first 7 minutes of the battle. She has not arrived/been called in yet.
Ah, true. How many members of the assault are actually Goglings, living their Agog lives? Seven minutes is plenty of time for a fight scene to get stale.
Gog outnumbers all armies.
i’m one of them and i’m loving it all
seven seconds to the end?
Soon we will see if the Republican Wheel will break, or if demons shall be broke upon them…
AIM FOR THE TECHNIQUE OF RELIEF!
I hope we get at least two more named attacks (or just a few more action shots of my favorite square angel) before shits starts getting super duper real (Jags breaks out of solitary confinement.)
Devoid of past relation, only gut urge drove the fractured one’s path now.
Damn and Nukoku is just posing and aura-farming.
“You’re telling me the battle is almost lost and just the second wave has landed? That pretty soon it’ll all get reset and I can go back?
I’ll have a Coke then.”
The lizard howitzers are adorable.
Howitzards?
Lizartillery, surely?
I’m sure that’s toad artillery.
The author of 10 Earth Shattering Blows once pondered whether his comic could be considered part of this one. I said, well this one is a multiverse so it’s conceivable that the demons in his setting might be among the ones needing to be killed. Well, one of the features of his settings is the use of lizards as vehicles of all kinds so, yeah, maybe those were shipped in from there.
So the guy with an abacus sword traded it in for a chainsaw lance? Slightly disappointed, honestly.
They’re just different guys (Chainsaw Lance dude uses a Scarf, Earrings and Gloves), we’re going to see the Abacus Sword in action, do not worry.
Wonder if Nukoku has some narrative manip thing, what she doing
ever a fanfic author at heart :’)
I think I might be missing some things.
1) Who or what are the big giant things that are fighting? I saw the Berserkers Incubus brought in, but some of those big lads look like they’re fighting on the side of the Republic.
2) How are they outnumbered 10 to 1? I always got the impression that the Disciples of the Count were not a particularly large group in the grand scheme of things. They only have space for like 5 digits. And yes 100,000 people is a lot, but not compared to armies made up from 111,111 worlds. Conversely the Republic seemed MASSIVE, especially with the influx of new immigrants. The guilds and Motom’s underlings were numerous, yes, but they always seemed like they were basically at each others’ throats at the BEST of times. When did they get so united?
This is actually explained when they first showed up. Basically they bought Incubus’ lies through a combination of unknowing and willful ignorance and aligned themselves with Jagganoth’s army, which is, in fact, Jagganoth’s 7th slice of the multiversal pie. As opposed to the Republic, which was in fact a small and struggling power reinforced by the rebellious elements of the other demiurges’ empires.
Basically one side is a universe-wiping army sending expendable chaff and mercenaries ahead of itself while the other is a bunch of stragglers trying to hold on.
Even if ALL of Motom, Incubus, and Mammon’s armies allied with Jagganoth’s, are not the multiverse “slices” equal in size? Shouldn’t each demiurge have a similar number of followers at their command? So, assuming they were all equal, this force should be outnumbering them 4:1, at most.
But Solomon actively cultivated an empire. We are shown that his people have a fairly high standard of living, strict rules aside. Whereas Motom routinely leaves her worlds desiccated husks and Jagganoth, as you have said, made his into an army. Husks cannot support large populations (even before the aforementioned infighting between guilds and Motom’s minions) and armies suffer casualties. Both of these things should mean that Jagganoth and Motom have SMALLER populations in their worlds vs someone who prioritized infrastructure and his people (even if it was mostly for show).
As for the Republic, was it not described multiple times as being a thing that spanned many worlds, presumably the majority of Solomon’s “slice”? It kind of fell on hard times after he left, but I thought that was mostly because of all the refugees coming in and bogging down the bureaucracy, not because of a lack of citizens. Like I said, maybe I missed something somewhere, but it kinda just feels like all these baddies came outta nowhere so the big fight can be suitably climactic (which is not inherently a bad thing).
In short, while the enemy outnumbering them is understandable (4 demiurges vs 1 and some change), it being such a massive imbalance when Jag’s forces aren’t even fully deployed seems kind of out of left field.
the Republic, as it stands, is the small scraps of a ruined empire that White Chain managed to rally together over the last few years. Only with the capacity of a few planets and a small corner of Throne in total. Unfortunately Preem Nand was not wrong in saying they were simply a collection of small, broken things.
They have absolutely no chance of standing up against the full unfettered might of the Middle Army, but they are very respectable for fighting against the end of the world instead of laying down and weeping.
The empire of Solomon David fractured almost entirely when the capitol city was also almost entirely destroyed by a single battle. Similarly to Rome, all the regions and principalities suddenly found themselves without reliable protection or a unified force to fight with. That’s what happens when Empires fall.
Addendum: Rebel forces are almost always smaller than the force the rebel against.
White Chain and Nyave stated that the Republic is only a few worlds and the districts surrounding their embassy in Throne. It doesn’t represent Solomon’s empire at all, his territory on the whole collapsed into mass civil war and presumably successor kingdoms. The Republic is a miniscule fledgling state that has managed to pull together an army this large by requesting aid from various other dissident forces, many inspired by Allison.
I’m wondering too. I suspect the ones wearing halos are gods. Others may be enormous demons. I haven’t spotted any of those giant revivified battle angel carcasses yet. In this view of the battle those Titans are fighting on both sides.
A related question is, if there are gods fighting, where’ve they been hiding out ? However, this epic involves multiple dimensions, time manipulation, and clues that reality has been / will be / is being re-written. So if some things seem unexplained at the moment – I’m guessing we may look there.
Quite early on, we saw the corpses of gods animated by demons to serve as public transportation. I think these may be a similar idea, but more like tanks.
I think if they were gods, we’d get some kind of mention of it. That would be a pretty big revelation, considering what we know of the lore. Not something you just drop into the background of one of the panels. If anything, the other demiurges would probably be losing their shit. The author has shown themself to be a better writer than that.
They might just be big dudes, like Jagganoth or the berserkers are, or battle mechs as Parsnip is suggesting, but I was wondering if anything specific had been mentioned about them.
Not really a big revelation as far as I can tell. Allison used to live in a god corpse house, there’s no real reverence for the gods anymore. It’s been established that their corpses are commonly used as vehicles.
The gods all died long ago, there were 777,777 and each stood in a unique direction in Throne and told a story, said story becoming a world. This killed the god, thus meaning every god *should* be dead, all of them having made a world.
Little do they know Alison has the power of Gog and anime on her side.
Also I’m fairly suspicious that Nukoku is gonna do something soon.
something is building
someaction will happen
suspense is suspensering
“Sir! We’re surrounded! All 360degrees in volume!”
The Flourine Admiral had already uncorked his second bottle, which he raised in fervor as he shouted in jubilation:
“Grand! That means we can fire whereever we want to!”
—The Billions Year War.
“Allison is in this burning crater here.”
I love this comic.
I like this type of narration.
Scene is fucking epic.
No wonder we had to wait a bit, was totally worth it.
It is great that Nukoku continues her Chronicle of the Rising King. The most accurate one, we must remember, even if somewhat embellished.
suddenly it’s Nukoku with a steel chair!
I still feel like Allison is barely using the power available to her. Like, she basically teleported herself and an entire ship really early on. Can’t she just, like, poof and be on Incubus’ ship tearing shit to pieces as soon as she wants?
OR…. Call in support from her home EARTH. Which we assume is our IRL Earth.
We have, after all, MILLIONS of soldiers, thousands of Tanks and other potent stuff.
She can clearly create a gate home, so in theory she could also open a huge gate to Earth and let Earths armies march forth! DEUS VULT!
It has been confirmed by Abbadon himself that Pree Allison’s Earth is not the one you hail from. A difference he called out was a feature called Australia is not on Pree Allison’s Earth.
As far as the strength of arms you propose as an available reinforcement, I don’t believe it would matter much in a battle between gods and emissaries. We’ve already seen military hardware built with magic and run on devils torn asunder without much effort. Inert steel and lead would just be chaff.
Anyway the entire war so far is naught but Incubus and his ilk playing at swords while the countdown to the true battle runs down in the background. Have faith, the real battle comes soon and it will be beyond the scope of tanks and armies and little men that play at swords.
I have some doubts about the ability of a random barista, no matter how magical, to convince the American (or any other terrestrial) military to rush into a mid-battle universal war they know nothing about. These things take time to explain and build up to, unfortunately.
I don’t think we’ve ever seen anything that runs on petroleum in this multiverse, either. The logistics of such an expedition would be… complicated, to say the least, and refitting F-16s and suchlike to run on demons would take time that they don’t have.
She has dumpstered a single ship (a jobber ship and not even Incubus’ vessel) and everyone was like WOW AMAZING while she did her goofy cigarette thing and not even two pages elapsed before it has been revealed that she did approximately fuck-all. So, considering she -knows- that she’s accomplished basically nothing so far, why the hell is she just aura farming while all these people who showed up, ostensibly “for her” are getting brutally slaughtered by bazookas and lizard cannons?
She’s dramatically lighting cigarettes on airborne embers while the Sixth Reich have had enough uncontested time to rappel down from their still untouched WarBastard Class Heavy Cruisers and set up machinegun nests and mortar emplacements and the Dinosaur Fusiliers have organized into firing lines. The Purple Fodder Army have been slaughtered by berserkers and are now being chainsawed to death by The OCD Number Fetish Army. The Uselesships which occupied like five straight pages of introduction are a shambles. Why is everyone (who could be doing literally anything else) -still- yapping about how amazing Allison is? Has she honestly done a whole lot that’s worth this open-mouthed gobsmacked sycophancy?
There’s been more than enough anticipation, and there’s been an absolutely interminable amount of “Single Amazing Event occurred! Cue four pages of various people breathlessly gawping about how cool and inspiring Allison is, even if it was White Chain or Maya actually doing stuff.” Its been cool and all and the scale is epic but sheesh enough is enough we get it already.
As Monty Python famously said, GET ON WITH IT.
One might remember, comics aren’t meant to be read week by week 🙂
Nukoku, Nukoku,
Playing Sudoku
Whiling her time away
She’s waiting for Allison
To get her true malice on
Only then will she join in the fray
C’mon Nukoku! Go help your friends! We believe in you!
I think there’s a typo here.
“White Chain and the OTHER fight…” should be
“White Chain and the OTHERS fight…”
I followed this comic for long enough to know the solution to this very inauspicious situation will not be a bigger amount of violence than what Incubus’ forces are providing, but something else.
I don’t know what this something else is, but I have faith in Allison. And this is enough.
Lizard tank!
Ten Earth Shattering Blows makes an appearance with lizard tanks!
Bring on the Sky Jellies!
I think we might be seeing Himself or at least the Heretics’ Court joining events quite shortly, they aren’t too far are they?
Spare a thought for the poor devil, aye?